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	<title>Comments on: The Story of Cap &amp; Trade:  Coming DECEMBER 1st!</title>
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	<description>The Story of Stuff exposes the connections between a huge number of environmental and social issues, and calls us together to create a more sustainable and just world.</description>
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		<title>By: Nick Burke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s positive in any right for Cap and Trade and other sustainability issues.  I&#039;ve also read the cover story of a recent issue of Harper&#039;s (Conning the Climate), which makes similar claims about the carbon market being a racket.  I am a strong supporter of environmental sustainability and have worked for years now providing energy efficiency services to various companies.

Unfortunately, I must disagree with your stated point that Cap and Trade is a system that will not work and is merely a distraction.  Your proposed solutions (Solid Caps, Strong Laws, Citizen Action, and Carbon Fees) should fit well with a properly functioning carbon market, and are not an independent alternative.

I agree that bogus credits should not be given out, but that should be an amendment to the regulation of a carbon market, not a condemnation of the whole market.  Strong Laws and Carbon Fees will impose higher costs on companies, making them grudgingly comply, but lobby heavily against continuation of these policies.  A properly functioning cap and trade market, however, creates an opportunity for additional income (based on clean investment and intellectual capital development) that will get many companies EXCITED about reducing emissions rather than fighting against the law.  Because they are excited and see a chance for income, they will invest even MORE in efficiency if this type of policy passes, which meets your goal of reducing pollution and growing closer to a sustainable situation.  I have worked on many projects and there is a great opportunity across the board for companies to be climate partners instead of adversaries.  This includes not only large factories, but churches, restaurants, local manufacturers, and all players in the energy economy.  Because companies will thrive in this type of market-based solution, people will be employed, which should keep Citizen Action on your side.  It&#039;s hard to keep the citizenry motivated for a better life if they are not working and cannot afford to do positive things with the people they love who are enriching their life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s positive in any right for Cap and Trade and other sustainability issues.  I&#8217;ve also read the cover story of a recent issue of Harper&#8217;s (Conning the Climate), which makes similar claims about the carbon market being a racket.  I am a strong supporter of environmental sustainability and have worked for years now providing energy efficiency services to various companies.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I must disagree with your stated point that Cap and Trade is a system that will not work and is merely a distraction.  Your proposed solutions (Solid Caps, Strong Laws, Citizen Action, and Carbon Fees) should fit well with a properly functioning carbon market, and are not an independent alternative.</p>
<p>I agree that bogus credits should not be given out, but that should be an amendment to the regulation of a carbon market, not a condemnation of the whole market.  Strong Laws and Carbon Fees will impose higher costs on companies, making them grudgingly comply, but lobby heavily against continuation of these policies.  A properly functioning cap and trade market, however, creates an opportunity for additional income (based on clean investment and intellectual capital development) that will get many companies EXCITED about reducing emissions rather than fighting against the law.  Because they are excited and see a chance for income, they will invest even MORE in efficiency if this type of policy passes, which meets your goal of reducing pollution and growing closer to a sustainable situation.  I have worked on many projects and there is a great opportunity across the board for companies to be climate partners instead of adversaries.  This includes not only large factories, but churches, restaurants, local manufacturers, and all players in the energy economy.  Because companies will thrive in this type of market-based solution, people will be employed, which should keep Citizen Action on your side.  It&#8217;s hard to keep the citizenry motivated for a better life if they are not working and cannot afford to do positive things with the people they love who are enriching their life.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Farthing</title>
		<link>http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=72&#038;cpage=1#comment-13274</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Farthing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very fine contribution to a situation of vital importance to every part of the planet. 
One issue not addressed however --is the proliferation of the human species, which has now gone past unsustainable proportions and is climbing rapidly. 
It is a delicate matter since it involves emotional, cultural and religious assumptions and beliefs, which make it diffucult to discuss rationally with many global citizens who are staunchly committed to having as many children as possible. 
Our growing &quot;tribal expansion&quot; is not only creating havoc in the human community it is leading to the extinction daily of vulnerable species of animals, birds, reptiles --in fact, most forms of life other than human. 
So I see this issue interwoven with the valued contributions Annie makes throughout this lecture-----</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very fine contribution to a situation of vital importance to every part of the planet.<br />
One issue not addressed however &#8211;is the proliferation of the human species, which has now gone past unsustainable proportions and is climbing rapidly.<br />
It is a delicate matter since it involves emotional, cultural and religious assumptions and beliefs, which make it diffucult to discuss rationally with many global citizens who are staunchly committed to having as many children as possible.<br />
Our growing &#8220;tribal expansion&#8221; is not only creating havoc in the human community it is leading to the extinction daily of vulnerable species of animals, birds, reptiles &#8211;in fact, most forms of life other than human.<br />
So I see this issue interwoven with the valued contributions Annie makes throughout this lecture&#8212;&#8211;</p>
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