Comments on: Climate & Consumption http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85 The Story of Stuff exposes the connections between a huge number of environmental and social issues, and calls us together to create a more sustainable and just world. Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:08:28 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Flavian http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85&cpage=2#comment-16905 Flavian Mon, 09 Aug 2010 13:22:55 +0000 http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85#comment-16905 First things first. Carbon is not a problem. Connecting it to the SOLAR SYSTEM warming is not demonstrated. Really demonstrated. Warming produces more CO2 not the other way around. The so-called Global Warming should be treated differently from the Human Made Global Warming and from Solar System Warming. Second, it is not yet demonstrated that a warmer climate would be bad. Yes, a few penguins and polar bears will die, some islands will go below water. But imagine a more humid and tropical climate, with more vegetation and moisture on most of the earth surface and you get the picture. Lots of areas from Rusian or Canadian tundra or deserted areas that will become green. You get the picture. Third. POLLUTION. This is the real problem. Like the cap&trade bullshit, this carbon non-problem is also a bullshit. We should not be concerned about carbon, we should be concerned about pollution. And for this, like you said, we already have laws. We should only enforce them. Fourth. Solutions. Do you have any ideea what "clean energy means". Do you have any ideea what EROEI means ? Do you know that most solar panels or wind turbine farms do not even get back the energy consumed with building them at the end of the lifetime ? Basically you spend lots of energy training engineers, designing energy farms, burning coal for steel, burning petrol for transporting electronics from China, consuming energy on infrastructures, cabling, maintenance and so on. At the end you barely get back the energy you invest, after 20 or more years of "free energy" from the wind or sun. DIVERSION. Our biggest enemy. We should be more careful about our real problems and our real solutions. We should invest in research and development. To find better solutions. Solar panels that require less energy to produce. Batteries for electric cars that are not thrown away so easy and cost at least 10 times less in order to be really "green". As you say, we should not be distracted with false ideas. First things first. Carbon is not a problem. Connecting it to the SOLAR SYSTEM warming is not demonstrated. Really demonstrated. Warming produces more CO2 not the other way around. The so-called Global Warming should be treated differently from the Human Made Global Warming and from Solar System Warming.

Second, it is not yet demonstrated that a warmer climate would be bad. Yes, a few penguins and polar bears will die, some islands will go below water. But imagine a more humid and tropical climate, with more vegetation and moisture on most of the earth surface and you get the picture. Lots of areas from Rusian or Canadian tundra or deserted areas that will become green. You get the picture.

Third. POLLUTION. This is the real problem. Like the cap&trade bullshit, this carbon non-problem is also a bullshit. We should not be concerned about carbon, we should be concerned about pollution. And for this, like you said, we already have laws. We should only enforce them.

Fourth. Solutions. Do you have any ideea what “clean energy means”. Do you have any ideea what EROEI means ? Do you know that most solar panels or wind turbine farms do not even get back the energy consumed with building them at the end of the lifetime ? Basically you spend lots of energy training engineers, designing energy farms, burning coal for steel, burning petrol for transporting electronics from China, consuming energy on infrastructures, cabling, maintenance and so on. At the end you barely get back the energy you invest, after 20 or more years of “free energy” from the wind or sun.

DIVERSION. Our biggest enemy. We should be more careful about our real problems and our real solutions. We should invest in research and development. To find better solutions. Solar panels that require less energy to produce. Batteries for electric cars that are not thrown away so easy and cost at least 10 times less in order to be really “green”. As you say, we should not be distracted with false ideas.

]]> By: K.A. Fuller http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85&cpage=2#comment-16389 K.A. Fuller Mon, 19 Jul 2010 03:00:24 +0000 http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85#comment-16389 This really helped me understand about emission trading I am study ethics and have got a debate topic That " Emission trading schemes are unethical" and i am to support this statment i am not sure where i stand on this issue as i have never really been told much about it i just knew that there were some that supported and those that didnt but if any1 can help and send me any information you may have my email is kfuller90@hotmail.com any help would be appriciated K.A. Fuller This really helped me understand about emission trading I am study ethics and have got a debate topic That ” Emission trading schemes are unethical” and i am to support this statment i am not sure where i stand on this issue as i have never really been told much about it i just knew that there were some that supported and those that didnt but if any1 can help and send me any information you may have my email is kfuller90@hotmail.com
any help would be appriciated

K.A. Fuller

]]> By: D J THOENNES ("TENNIS") http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85&cpage=2#comment-16318 D J THOENNES ("TENNIS") Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:37:52 +0000 http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85#comment-16318 Your film on cap & trade was well constructed and described that system fairly accurately. However, had you done your homework on climate change well, you would have discovered the data in the IPCC reports of 2007 that shows that abatement of CO2 will not make a difference in the coming changes in climate the world will have to deal with. With a good email address, I could send you the details. Sincerely, Dr. D. J. Thoennes Hamilton, NJ Your film on cap & trade was well constructed and described that system fairly accurately.

However, had you done your homework on climate change well, you would have discovered the data in the IPCC reports of 2007 that shows that abatement of CO2 will not make a difference in the coming changes in climate the world will have to deal with. With a good email address, I could send you the details.

Sincerely,
Dr. D. J. Thoennes
Hamilton, NJ

]]> By: John Bryant http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85&cpage=2#comment-16268 John Bryant Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:59:36 +0000 http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85#comment-16268 Your ideas are brilliant and forward thinking, but they miss the real cause of the pollution problem on this planet. The real problem is over-population. The solution to that is a global 'birth stop' for seven years which will reduce all of the demands for fossil fuels and get our planet back to normal. Each time we circle the sun, we add over 199 million new people to this planet. Each one puts a lifetime of consumtion demands on the planet. If earth was a lifeboat...and it is...the addition of too many passengers will sink the boat...even if the boat is as big as the earth. Your ideas are brilliant and forward thinking, but they miss the real cause of the pollution problem on this planet. The real problem is over-population. The solution to that is a global ‘birth stop’ for seven years which will reduce all of the demands for fossil fuels and get our planet back to normal. Each time we circle the sun, we add over 199 million new people to this planet. Each one puts a lifetime of consumtion demands on the planet. If earth was a lifeboat…and it is…the addition of too many passengers will sink the boat…even if the boat is as big as the earth.

]]> By: coreysk84life http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85&cpage=2#comment-16253 coreysk84life Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:30:47 +0000 http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85#comment-16253 Can’t wait to see your latest…. Phillip Zimbardo says the the sames techniques that got us to be this numbed masses forking over all our assets can be used to make good citizens also…. I was wondering about some examples of how this might come to be… If women got to smoke cause of Bernays “freedom sticks” what might we use to fix obesity, savings, and the return to caring for our neighbor like ourselves… thanks L. Can’t wait to see your latest…. Phillip Zimbardo says the the sames techniques that got us to be this numbed masses forking over all our assets can be used to make good citizens also….

I was wondering about some examples of how this might come to be… If women got to smoke cause of Bernays “freedom sticks” what might we use to fix obesity, savings, and the return to caring for our neighbor like ourselves… thanks L.

]]> By: John http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85&cpage=2#comment-16069 John Sun, 23 May 2010 14:45:34 +0000 http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85#comment-16069 It seems like everyone has their own oppinion on this subject. I just want a clear cut answer for why our climate is changing. Twenty years ago it was the ozone layer, now it's something else! What's going on here? It seems like everyone has their own oppinion on this subject. I just want a clear cut answer for why our climate is changing. Twenty years ago it was the ozone layer, now it’s something else! What’s going on here?

]]> By: Bee Williamson http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85&cpage=2#comment-15981 Bee Williamson Sat, 15 May 2010 05:46:57 +0000 http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85#comment-15981 You are Amazing! your work is amazing your effort, dedication and time is inspiring and your clarity of thought is astounding.... You are Amazing!
your work is amazing
your effort, dedication and time is inspiring
and your clarity of thought
is astounding….

]]> By: Lawrence Murray http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85&cpage=2#comment-15925 Lawrence Murray Mon, 10 May 2010 01:20:08 +0000 http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85#comment-15925 Great job getting the message out about how bad is cap and trade. I support a national sales tax, pollution surcharge and recently added a FAT tax. People get to make choices; government must help fund fuel cells and superconductors and clean water. It is not like they can keep this game up as gas is going to sell for $7.50 / gal in 10 years. But with cars that run on hydrogen (fuel cell) and liquid nitrogen (Superconductor Motor) and plug in the batteries, we cut pollution by transportation 40%. Our solar collectors and plugged in car make us money and top $ on peak. Wind is used to make hydrogen along with concentrating solar. What's your plan? Great job getting the message out about how bad is cap and trade. I support a national sales tax, pollution surcharge and recently added a FAT tax. People get to make choices; government must help fund fuel cells and superconductors and clean water. It is not like they can keep this game up as gas is going to sell for $7.50 / gal in 10 years. But with cars that run on hydrogen (fuel cell) and liquid nitrogen (Superconductor Motor) and plug in the batteries, we cut pollution by transportation 40%. Our solar collectors and plugged in car make us money and top $ on peak. Wind is used to make hydrogen along with concentrating solar. What’s your plan?

]]> By: Jeroen http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85&cpage=2#comment-15783 Jeroen Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:49:25 +0000 http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=85#comment-15783 I have a idea on my website it called the unequalmaximum. This will prevent that the system trash people. The only thing is it is in dutch. So maby you can translate it with google translate. dutch version http://www.hobby-psychologie.nl/nieuws/49/Gelijkheid%20is%20een%20sprookje%20maar%20is%20concurrentie%20alles%20ongelijkheidmaximum%20.html english version it is not a perfect translation http://translate.google.nl/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hobby-psychologie.nl%2Fnieuws%2F49%2FGelijkheid%2520is%2520een%2520sprookje%2520maar%2520is%2520concurrentie%2520alles%2520ongelijkheidmaximum%2520.html&sl=auto&tl=en I have a idea on my website it called the unequalmaximum. This will prevent that the system trash people. The only thing is it is in dutch. So maby you can translate it with google translate.

dutch version
http://www.hobby-psychologie.nl/nieuws/49/Gelijkheid%20is%20een%20sprookje%20maar%20is%20concurrentie%20alles%20ongelijkheidmaximum%20.html

english version it is not a perfect translation
http://translate.google.nl/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hobby-psychologie.nl%2Fnieuws%2F49%2FGelijkheid%2520is%2520een%2520sprookje%2520maar%2520is%2520concurrentie%2520alles%2520ongelijkheidmaximum%2520.html&sl=auto&tl=en

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